tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5854041651395467752.post6907842266386185630..comments2024-03-27T06:19:03.673-04:00Comments on The Prancing Papio: Touching DeathRaymond Vagellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07201194971845020498noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5854041651395467752.post-32070919152191751572011-02-06T15:49:45.305-05:002011-02-06T15:49:45.305-05:00The link has been corrected. Here's the hyperl...The link has been corrected. Here's the hyperlink in case you don't want to find it in the post.<br /><br />Behavioural reactions of elephants towards a dying and deceased matriarch: http://www.cnr.berkeley.edu/~georgew/Publications/2006AABS%20InPress.pdfRaymond Vagellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07201194971845020498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5854041651395467752.post-59826590065494571842011-02-06T14:43:43.291-05:002011-02-06T14:43:43.291-05:00Thank you 300baud. Here is a corrected link for th...Thank you 300baud. Here is a <a href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.applanim.2006.04.014" rel="nofollow">corrected link</a> for the paper "Behavioural reactions of elephants towards a dying and deceased matriarch" (we will fix the broken link above, thanks for pointing that out).<br /><br />I've worked closely with great apes in my graduate work and am always concerned about the Eric Michael Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01272418277524164040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5854041651395467752.post-16684563536896493872011-02-06T09:13:02.776-05:002011-02-06T09:13:02.776-05:00This is moving and poetically written, and I reall...This is moving and poetically written, and I really like your use of historical material here. But I've got a concern about your scientific content.<br /><br />I'm not sure what the chimpanzee did can only be described as mourning. Yes, she is coming to understand that the infant she feels such a bond to has changed. But human mourning runs deeper than a merely pragmatic investigation of Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5854041651395467752.post-9077213788906390622011-02-06T09:10:29.537-05:002011-02-06T09:10:29.537-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5854041651395467752.post-22025282676119528422011-02-06T01:43:04.794-05:002011-02-06T01:43:04.794-05:00About 5 years ago I shot a grey squirrel, one of a...About 5 years ago I shot a grey squirrel, one of a pair, around 1PM, from the canopy of trees on the edge of my plant nursery. These squirrels are an introduced species here... and have become quite successful as a gregarious & inventive nuisance to me and other species hereabouts... notably the smaller native Douglas squirrel (which don't bother my seedling trees to any great degree).<brAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5854041651395467752.post-48964781674175032702011-02-06T00:14:54.494-05:002011-02-06T00:14:54.494-05:00Thank you for your comment Patrick. I know very we...Thank you for your comment Patrick. I know very well what you're referring to with Flint's behavior after his elderly mother Flo died. He refused to leave his nest or eat and he eventually died. I first came across this example when I saw the wonderful documentary The People of the Forest. It was heartbreaking to watch.<br /><br />This was also the documentary that introduced the idea Eric Michael Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01272418277524164040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5854041651395467752.post-23385698881704110672011-02-04T17:58:45.780-05:002011-02-04T17:58:45.780-05:00Great post, Eric! (And thank you for hosting, Raym...Great post, Eric! (And thank you for hosting, Raymond). I wonder what goes through the mind of an ape that encounters a deceased mate, relative, or friend. There seems to be a lot of variation in how long some mothers hold onto the bodies of their deceased infants, which implies a less canalized behavior. Perhaps there is no set instinct in how to deal with such a profound event, and each Patrick Clarkinhttp://kevishere.wordpress.com/2010/05/15/life-is-beautiful/noreply@blogger.com